Classic. So unreliable?

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An acquaintance with a ZGAN motorcycle had a whole story about all the electronic misery that had kept him off the road this summer. At the end of the list, he raised his eyebrow: “But what old things do you ride? Surely you often have a hassle with that? ”

Classic is reliable

So no. The cheering fact is, of course, that motorcycles from before 1990 are not hanging around their axes because of the electronics. Because electronics are broken. Apparently, that is not necessarily necessary. Because I know someone who has had a pacemaker for years without any problems. But in today's motor and car industry, marketers and electronic engineers have forged a conspiracy in which they decided to digitize everything that is possible. And then we are back: electronics break. Also because it is made so cheaply and en masse.

With 'our' motorcycles, things are still clear

The ignition can be (aftermarket) digital. If that fails, the end is the story. Some more conservative types still drive with contact points, an extra set of points, an extra capacitor and some on-board tools. They always come home.

But in fact, the classics that are still driving today have been restored, overhauled or at least cherished. They are often better with that than when they left the factory. And most of the horror stories you hear are from tipsy uncles on boring birthdays. They have never experienced them themselves. But 'everyone' knows that… Fill in it. British motorcycles are bad, Harleys do not brake and steer, Japanese motorcycles are bad in steering, Italian motorcycles always have electrical problems. BMWs are reliable. Russian classics are also bad, by the way.

Fortunately we know better

A daily used Moto Guzzi from 1991 also starts after a cloudburst. The thing has run a few tons in the meantime. The history that we popped up at TLM showed that the engine had gearbox problems when it had run 16D kilometers. In the meantime, the wiring has grown quite far from the original, but in all those years the power problems remained very clear. Last year a new link was received for the second time. For the rest, the beast has just had its maintenance. And that sometimes something has been replaced? He is now using some oil. But oil is cheap with the Action.

My first Ural combination was apparently one that was made for police or KGB. Serious quality control was carried out on these machines. The thing has been running 140D km. And has always come home riding. After 140D kilometers, a used Dnepr block was used. And for that Richard Busweiler is the incredibly affordable address. Replacement was cheaper than revision. Much cheaper.

Hurry ...

Of the current Russian, the revised block was apparently hastily assembled by the previous owner. This was also apparent when the block was dismantled. The thing became extremely hot due to leakage of combustion gases along the pistons and used four liters of oil from Cadzand Bad to Gelderland (350 km). But he faithfully brought his owner home.

And if a cable breaks along the way? Well, who doesn't have a spare universal cable plus a few tons? And with classics with a pull and a push cable for the gas control you can always cross the cables. Just keep thinking for a moment: you give gas by turning away from you.

Riding a new motorcycle to be on the road without a problem? Forget it. My modern motorcycling knowledge was a bit embarrassed by the story. He secretly started to like classics.

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That was a burnt outlet

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After 140D km equipped with a fairly fresh Dnepr block

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A loosely vibrated headlight bolt
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Unexpected finds in the carterpan.

 

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Along the way you repair everything
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Well: Almost everything

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3 comments

  1. Very often I come across the text ……. action does not cost much, in this case oil.
    Nevertheless, it is advisable to use a good oil (you do not necessarily have to take the most expensive varieties).
    In the years 60 and 70, perhaps before that, you had Shell DZ oil with DZ from do it yourself, in neutral jugs with only Shell DZ, without extra additives. In later maintenance you noticed that the engines became heavily contaminated, something that can be a problem with the current oil types and too tight fits in the engines, especially with the new generation and youngtimers.
    An example of the difference with a good oil: in 1988 I bought a new Peugeot 205 GTi, even though the car had an oil consumption of 1 l on 1200 km, it was reported to the importer in, then, Utrecht. Who asked me to refresh the car with BP viscoroute 2000, after having done that, the consumption went to 1 l on the 2500 km. Was still big for a new car and then other pistons and springs went in (Incidentally, also played in the 405 series).
    So I do not want to say that it is always better if it is more expensive, but with engines with weak parts or highly polluting parts due to deposits it is better not to use something just like that. Although I understand that in an old motorcycle you are more inclined to use it more economically than with a Ferrari.

  2. In terms of technology, modern stuff is often more reliable than old stuff, many engine blocks effortlessly turn a barrel or one and a half to two before intervention is necessary, even if more is required than 'normal use'.
    In the past, a block with 30-50K was simply 'on', and had to be taken apart.
    Harleys only became really motor reliable from the Evolution engines that came on the market in '83 ~ '84.
    Sure you have exceptions; there is probably a Norton ES somewhere that gets a ton under normal street use, but most of the old stuff that the whip is about breaks down prematurely.
    Electric is another factor, and does not always have a best name whether it is Italian, English or Japanese.
    A lot of inconvenience can be prevented by soldering cable boots and making good earth connections.
    Voltage regulators that á la Honda hangs behind the panels just moving to a cooler place also helps ..

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